Todays conversation is more holistic.

He said Disneys spirit and search for originality led to his team opting for the streamer over a broadcaster.

How Black people lived or survived in East Germany was always super interesting to me, Ricketts explained.

Sam - A Saxon

Sam (Malick Bauer) in Sam: A Saxon.Disney

Samuels story was so dramatic and made me want to look into other aspects of Black German life.

Lead director is Soleen Yusef and director is Sarah Blakiewitz.

Next up for Winger isOuija,a supernatural coming-of-age thriller for France Televisions and Starzplay.

WGA West building in Hollywood

Jörg Winger: “The dominating discourse in Germany around diversity and racism was always the Holocaust.” Image: Kris Connor/ Getty Images for SundanceTV and MPAA