Every season, I feel like I fly a little closer to the sun, says Reich.

So, the mischief maker in me couldnt resist.

I do think, it turns out, the trying to get nominated is also really good.

Game Changer

Sam Reich in ‘Game Changer’Kate Elliott/Dropout

I almost feel like weve reaped the rewards of being nominated already.

DEADLINE: Where did the idea forGame Changeroriginally come from?

All of us were sort of having to pivot to think about something that wasnt our primary skill set.

Dimension 20: Dungeons & Drag Queens

Vic Michaelis, Jacob Wysocki and Lou Wilson in “Sam Says 3”Kate Elliott/Dropout

I think it was being raised by a British mother and watchingMonty Pythonthat did that to me.

So, I had this idea sitting around in a file somewhere.

REICH: It was pretty immediately great.

I think when you have a show thats not quite connecting with people, its pretty clear pretty quickly.

And when you have a show that is really connecting with people, its pretty clear pretty quickly.

DEADLINE: Now youre at the point where youre constantly one-upping yourself with these episodes.

[laughs] No, our process now looks something like this.

And thats tough because chances are, weve heard the idea before.

Its this question of, Does this check enough boxes to feel like aGame Changergame at this point?

Its more like every box needs to be checked over the course of a season.

Sometimes were going to have an episode that focuses only on one player.

Sometimes were going to do a straight up reality show parody.

So, its that sort of exercise.

Thats very important on set and in the post-production process.

And there was only one of them.

There was, in fact, Sam and also a very talented story producer, Sabrina Brody.

He was fundamentally the seasons sole editor.

Ratfish, which was just a criminally absurd number of cameras…

I mean, just a really impressive character, really good at what he does.

DEADLINE: You mentioned Ratfish, and Im very excited for the second part to come out next week.

How did that idea come about?

So, I was looking for ways to do a tribute to it.

I really want to do it this season.

Its the first time weve left the studio entirely for an episode.

DEADLINE: And how did Eric Wareheim get involved as the Ratfish?

Its a pretty limited pool of people.

I was delighted and surprised that he responded in the affirmative so quickly.

Couldnt ask for a wilder wildcard.

He was so into it too.

Youll see the next episode, hes so high on the power.