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And it is a drum that requires banging.

Enter agents old and new, acting as gateways and clearing the path to better representation.

She adds: When you go to other countries, the piece of the puzzle missing is the agents.

Liz Carr, Ruth Madeley, Ellie Henry, Julie Fernandez & Sara Johnson

(Clockwise from L-R) VisABLE People client Ellie Henry, Liz Carr, Ruth Madeley, Adam Welsh, Julie Fernandez & Sara JohnsonCourtesy/BBC/Sister/AMC/Anika Molnar/Getty/John Holloway/David Proud/Adam Lawrence

Who are they, who will create rate cards and who will make work secure and affordable?

Now, we get to carry on and scale that.

For Johnson, we are adding the A [for access] to D, E & I.

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This attracted him to the role, along with being given the opportunity to work for a larger company.

Both Roach and Johnson are careful to pay tribute to those who laid the groundwork for this push.

We stand on the shoulders of giants, says Johnson.

She has had a front row seat to all the change over several decades.

It has been like turning around a super tanker.

It was five years before we even got a booking.

Burnell faced some unpleasantness, but became a shining beacon for young disabled children and has since flourished.

The outfit runs trainee schemes intended to help those behind the camera navigate the cavernous paths of the sector.

They are not intended solely for disabled talent, but are attended by many from the disabled community.

Many of my clients were moving from job to job in a way that was reactive rather than strategic.

A great number of our clients would now declare as being somewhere on the spectrum, she says.

I had this meandering career.

His agency dedicated to neurodivergent talent has been running for more than two years now and has flourished.

Welsh says the response to an idea I had in a sushi bar has been overwhelming.

Dyson knows that it takes a group effort.

My dream is that disability will be so integrated as to be completely unremarkable.

And, with that, Dyson lays down a marker.

The agents role will be crucial in the future of disabled talent.