We dont stop planning.

Weve all had to deal with years of pivoting.

This is just the latest pivot moment.

Awards show chiefs

American Theatre Wing CEO Heather Hitchens, AMPAS CEO Bill Kramer and Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr. on a panel of awards organization chiefsDade Hayes

We see all sides of this.

We want a solution.

… Theres just a lot of planning and pivoting right now.

WGA West building in Hollywood

The Tonys mounted a strike-affected show in June, earning generally high marks after clashing with the WGA.

The awards actually showcase how important the creators are, he said.

Were going to coast on this positive side as we develop our plans, he said.

We are one inter-dependent industry, she said.

The strikes are happening because we are having once-a-generation changes, but we are stronger together.

… She threw herself down the stairs for us!

Thats a constant conversation we keep entertaining.

Sizing up live viewership doesnt work anymore, Kramer said.

You need a Plus-7 number.

You need impressions on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook.

All of that counts, he said.

I think its dangerous to just focus on that.

Its a bigger audience, its a more diverse audience and theyre engaging with us in different ways.

But it all comes back to, we have to put on a great live TV show.

We are attracted to that communal experience still, he said.

Im not commenting, Kramer deadpanned as the audience and fellow panelists laughed.