It is getting worse, Chase said in anexclusive interviewwith The Times U.K.

Were going back to where we were.

He says the two-decade-plus period that began withThe Sopranosis a 25-year blip.

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We are more into multitasking, Chase said.

And as for streaming executives?

It is getting worse.

James Gandolfini stands in front of a pool with his arms crossed in ‘The Sopranos’.

Were going back to where we were.

Chase said the 25th anniversary ofThe Sopranosis a funeral.

The producer had harsh words for the pre-Sopranosera of broadcast TV as well.

Back then the networks were in an artistic pit.

A sh*thole, he said.

The process was repulsive.

I should have quit.

I should have known that a real mafia wiseguy show would not happen on US TV, he said.

If you think your grandmother is risk adverse, you should meet online grid people.

The success ofThe Sopranos, he continued, was a chance for some I-told-you-sos.

I made them regret all their decades of stupidity and greed.